No, no and no. REBLOG this please, this shouldn’t be allowed and we need to spread the word to everybody about this injustice!
The actual news article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2726219/Yasmin-Thomas-victim-disgusted-walked-free.html
"But womenz are so oppressed! "
You realize that he probably instigated her? People dont just do these things. You just like to hear the one side of the story that you want to.
Yup, much in the same way Rihanna probably instigated shit with Chris Brown.
You fucking victim-blaming idiot.
"Men always instigate women; because are magical and only capable of good violence.”
"But women are so oppressed!"
How does one instance of one woman attacking a man negate the overall trend that it is the vast majority of the time, men doing the attacking?
Imagine you live in the South during 1840 and you meet a free slave therefore slavery must be over!!!1
Fact bomb time!
And guess what, sunshine? Instances of assault of women by men also does not negate the fact that the majority of men on this planet will never hurt another person in their entire lifetime.
But hey - keep thinking that violence is only ever gender-based. That’s TOTALLY going to help with that whole “equality” thing.
You 100% missed the point. What ‘lostinyourdoubt’ is saying is that one instance of violence against a man by a woman doesn’t prove or negate the fact that women are oppressed.
But you missed that whole point, and posted all these statistics like they mattered. Regardless, here goes (I’m going to ignore all the instances of degrading, sexist insults you used in your response. ex: sunshine, hon, etc. I’m just going to use facts to carry my argument, instead of insults, which weaken it):
Let’s look at the second link, saying 41% of spousal murders are committed by women (mainly because the first link is some tumblr bullshit of some headlines, nothing on actual statistics comparing what men vs. women get out of in legal cases). We can see in your own link, that 40.2 of spousal murder victims were men, while 59.8 were women. And that 59.3 of those who committed the crime were male, while 40.7 were female. Huh, weird. Although women do in fact commit spousal murder, it seems as if they’re more likely to be the victim, while men are more likely to be the one committing the crime.
Now, I’m going to ignore the children abuse cases, because the majority of those caring for children are mothers, so obviously the majority of the ones who abuse children are the ones who are around them the most. Here (http://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/) we can see that only a 1/6th of children live with their single fathers. The study you referenced should have taken that into account (also single homes vs. the amount of homes with both parents, or homes with step mothers vs. step fathers, because all of those are important factors) BUT I’m also going to skip over that because the point of my post is about how you neglected the fact that your response was *supposed* to be about how women aren’t oppressed, but was just about how men are victims of violence to.
Let’s look at your next link, about how 40% of men are victims of domestic abuse. Right there, in your own source, is the line “’The 2008-09 bulletin states: “More than one in four women (28%) and around one in six men (16%) had experienced domestic abuse since the age of 16. These figures are equivalent to an estimated 4.5 million female victims of domestic abuse and 2.6 million male victims.” ’ and also ‘"6% of women and 4% of men reported having experienced domestic abuse in the past year, equivalent to an estimated one million female victims of domestic abuse and 600,000 male victims".’ So here we see that, yes, men do experience domestic abuse, but guess who experiences it on a much larger scale? Women.
Now let’s look at my own source about domestic abuse: http://www.ncadv.org/files/DomesticViolenceFactSheet(National).pdf Here we can see that women make up 85% of domestic abuse victims, and that a third of female homicide victims are killed by their partners. Also, ‘In 70-80% of intimate partner homicides, no matter which partner was killed, the man physically abused the woman before the murder.’ But hold on, I want to also name another link that’s also important in this discussion (http://www.pbs.org/kued/nosafeplace/studyg/domestic.html) The very last paragraph: “Can men be the victims of domestic violence? According to the U.S. Department of Justice, 95 percent of the victims of domestic violence are women. The National Crime Victimization Survey consistently finds that no matter who initiates the violence, women are 7 to 10 times more likely to be injured than are men. It’s important to realize the climate of intimidation and control that occurs in abusive families. Most men will say they are not afraid of the woman with whom they live, even if they had also been hit, scratched, or punched by her. However, you’ll often hear that women are terrorized and live in constant fear of being battered by the man with whom they live. The difference in strength and physical size puts a woman at more risk than a man.”
Let’s move on to the next thing, 40% of rape victims are men. New York Times has a wonderful article on male rape, including forced penetration. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/health/as-victims-men-struggle-for-rape-awareness.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0) Here we see that ‘1 in 21 said they had been forced to penetrate an acquaintance or a partner, usually a woman; had been the victim of an attempt to force penetration; or had been made to receive oral sex.’ If we do the math, that’s only 4.75%. It continues on to say ‘A Department of Justice report found that 3 percent of men, or one in 33, had been raped. Some experts believe that one in six men have experienced unwanted sexual contact of some kind as minors.’ Now, let’s compare that to the statistics for women from this BBC source (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16192494) “Nearly 20% of women in the US are raped or suffer attempted rape at some point in their lives, a US study says.” That’s 15.25% *more* than men.
That covers your whole first point. Yes, women do commit crimes, and men can be victims. But here we see that you proved no points. We all understand that this isn’t the ‘only instance,’ but women are still oppressed, by being the victim more often, and men being the perpetrators more often. So, what ‘lostinyourdoubt’ said is actually 100% true. Women are oppressed, regardless of the ones who do in fact commit crimes.
I’m not even going to bother touching on your second ‘point,’ because it’s not actually a point. You linked to sources with the biased claim of ‘the majority of men on this planet will never hurt another person in their entire lifetime.' Where are the statistics to back this up? That the 'majority' of men won't ever hurt anyone ever? Because everything I posted indicates men are more likely than women to be violent towards people of any gender. All you posted were scientific articles about brains and violence. They had nothing to do with male or female acts of violence, just brains. Also, no one said anything that warranted the point 'You could bombard a man with violent imagery of rape and murder, but mere image and suggestion is not going to disable the functioning of the pre-frontal cortex.’ (Although I’ll say, there are countless studies proving that violent media, and even porn will lead to desensitization and perpetuation of violence. There hasn’t been a study that connects the two, but the studies I’ll post show violent media causes desensitization to violence, which probably effects how likely people are to act on impulses. Not only that, but brains don’t stop forming until age 25, so exposure to violence at younger ages may effect the development of the pre-frontal cortex) (http://pss.sagepub.com/content/12/5/353.short “Research on exposure to television and movie violence suggests that playing violent video games will increase aggressive behavior. A meta-analytic review of the video-game research literature reveals that violent video games increase aggressive behavior in children and young adults. Experimental and nonexperimental studies with males and females in laboratory and field settings support this conclusion. Analyses also reveal that exposure to violent video games increases physiological arousal and aggression-related thoughts and feelings. Playing violent video games also decreases prosocial behavior.” also http://www.mincava.umn.edu/documents/arpornography/arpornography.html#idp7024288 “Commercial pornography in the United States is at the same time increasingly more normalized and more denigrating to women. There is understandable interest in the question about the connection between pornography and sexual violence. Rather than asking “does pornography cause rape?” we would be better served by investigating whether pornography is ever a factor that contributes to rape. In other words, Is pornography implicated in sexual violence in this culture? There are limits to what research can tell us about the complex interactions of mass media and human behavior. But from both laboratory research and the narratives of men and women, it is not controversial to argue that pornography can: (1) be an important factor in shaping a male-dominant view of sexuality; (2) be used to initiate victims and break down their resistance to unwanted sexual activity; (3) contribute to a user’s difficulty in separating sexual fantasy and reality; and (4) provide a training manual for abusers.” To further back up that last claim: http://vaw.sagepub.com/content/16/10/1065.short “
This current study analyzes the content of popular pornographic videos, with the objectives of updating depictions of aggression, degradation, and sexual practices and comparing the study’s results to previous content analysis studies. Findings indicate high levels of aggression in pornography in both verbal and physical forms. Of the 304 scenes analyzed, 88.2% contained physical aggression, principally spanking, gagging, and slapping, while 48.7% of scenes contained verbal aggression, primarily name-calling. Perpetrators of aggression were usually male, whereas targets of aggression were overwhelmingly female. Targets most often showed pleasure or responded neutrally to the aggression.” Talking about children viewing violent things (like porn): http://pornharmsresearch.com/2013/12/talking-points-pornography-and-criminal-behavior-and-attitudes-research/ and http://www.internetsafety101.org/Pornographystatistics.htm “Youth who look at violent x-rated material are six times more likely to report forcing someone to do something sexual online or in-person versus youth not exposed to x-rated material.”) So not only did you make irrelevant points, you didn’t follow up the ‘majority of men’ claim at all. It’s null.
'lostinyourdoubt' didn't claim violence was 'just a gender thing,' they claimed that *yes, women are still oppressed, even when some do fucked up shit.* But, keep ignoring points and posting irrelevant sources with facts that don't matter to the argument that was originally made.